Monday, January 18, 2010

way to port over Decimese to Visemese.

Huh. I stand corrected.

Decimese: Initial consonant voiceless consonant. Mid position voiced counterpart. Final position nasal consonant.
This is true of noun, verb, adverb adjectives. The others interspersed with their own unique syllable forms remain distinct.

I've been agonizing over "M".
Mandarian Chinese think it is a word-initial consonant, NOT a word-final one.
The Anglo in me feels like it belongs with the other nasal consonants -N and -NG at the end.
Cantonese speakers find the -M at the end makes perfect sense.
However, the other Cantonese syllable-final consonants which I use word initial/mid only for Mandarin speakers are not tenable.

I said the other day that Visemese is completely incompatible with my Decimese phonology.
Decimese: PB TD KG FV SZ, L R W Y, H. AEIOU. (diphthongs per Mandarin).
Visemese: 3 of the primary consonant pairs cannot be used with M, N, NG.
So I figured that any attempt to make Decimese lipread-friendly was screwed.
Conversely, an attempt to accommodate Visemese phonemes doomed a tolerable selection of common world phonemes for a standard aux-lang.
I was really bored at work. Banged away at that for 5 hours.
And finally something gave.

What gave?

Well, there I was, mourning the loss of M N and NG. But on the bright side, I could use the word-initial consonants at the end of the word.
So instead of word final consonants from Decimese -M -N - NG, we have (ignoring voice) P T K F and S. L R ?
Well, the function of the word-final consonants in Decimese is to denote grammatical element. Noun, verb, adverb/adjective.
Word order- VERY rigid- SVO only (sure we can use optional word particle, but I cater to English and Mandarin) so that suffices for clarity.
Well, in Visemese, what if word order was no longer rigid? Instead of adding either word particles or adding a whole extra syllable (-A, -O anyone? Way to double the basic time required), we can now use all those spare consonants.
We have um SEVEN word-final consonants available for Visemese.
Noun. Pronoun? Verb. Modal? Adjective. Adverb. Preposition. Conjunction.
Obviously, the distinct Decimese syllable/phoneme format takes care of these grammatical indicators most of the time.
But if we have fluid word order for grammatical elements - Latinate even (sans infix syllables), we can use those spare word-final Visemese consonants to allow clear flexible word order. With no extra syllables, just the final consonant, denoting which grammatical element a word belongs to. It should retain good brevity. (Retainas gooda brevityo anyone?)

Huh. And just like that, I found a potential interface point.
Lipreaders just change a few rules on phoneme inventory and syllable formation.

Aside: I am quite intrigued by the SpeedTalk concept.

For Decimese, take for example the still-meaningless gibberish words that follow.

Ri Peblam.
If we wish to cram it all together, well we *could* for some audiences and some future time and place do the following.
R: this is added to form a consonant cluster. I: this is added to form a vowel diphthong.
So we get: Preilam.

Using a Language53 approach, we *could* add phonemes or tonemes at some future date.
Just a thought. This could compact it down even more.
Gemination looks attractive, since 2 A's crammed side by side won't form a diphthong.

Hmm. I found a chart of 24 ways to use verbs in English. Well that's 12 tones x2 geminations.
OR 8 tones x 3 geminations. 8 tones put to music notes would amount to 1.1 octaves, or normal human singing range.
Britney Spears! <:

I have sooo much work to do.... good thing I'm dedicating my life to language, LOL.

1 comment:

Dino Snider said...

LOL I just realized what Di-in-o means in Esp-o.
Di = god. -in- =tiny. -o = noun.
So Demigod. <: Cool.
Well, with either vowel gemination or the
proposed glottal stop '.